Subject	What's the point of that? The gain is from less airflow
Posted by	Ashman2k2 on October 06, 2009 at 5:35 PM
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In Reply To	To be fair this is gains of going single to dual pop, AND posted by Inzane on October 06, 2009 at 05:01 PM
Message	restriction with dual pop. What Selin is demonstrating is that you can go dual pop without affecting the AFR at all, without touching the ecu & and or adding an SAFC. So in theory the HP/TQ for what you are asking would be the same, however accomplished with much less hassle and extremely clean. Again as he mentioned, if the the car was previously tuned using a dummy MAF &/or 2nd MAF w/SAFC the tune would have accounted for inaccuracies of the setup, and therefore AFR could possibly be altered after switching to his product.
Follow Ups	Selin Dual Intake dyno - 30hp/30ft-lb gain on a Stage III+! - CaliguyPurdue (Selin Design) 16:29:54 10/06/09 The numbers speak for themselves. - SimaYi 16:37:56 10/06/09 The intro package deal ends next Wednesday... - CaliguyPurdue (Selin Design) 11:19:02 10/07/09 SOLD! - Obeeone 16:38:22 10/06/09 Very nice!! Congrats for a great product! - TheTwinZ (Peru) 16:53:32 10/06/09 Now we are waiting for your products ;-) - ArubaDave 17:23:36 10/06/09 Production already started and we are negociating with our - TheTwinZ (Peru) 18:20:54 10/06/09 Nicely done Jim. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 16:58:20 10/06/09 nice! (n/m) - aliaZ 17:00:20 10/06/09 Very nice. I got to see the products at ZCon and they're - Guapo 17:00:26 10/06/09 I am on a first name basis with Mr. Selin Design. ;) (n/m) - Scotts94z32 18:06:43 10/06/09 yep, I fondled them as well - aliaZ 19:06:44 10/06/09 Roy won the whole kit at the TTnet dinner. - Woody75 (Denver) 21:28:19 10/06/09 To be fair this is gains of going single to dual pop, AND - Inzane 17:01:32 10/06/09 I'd be very interested in those results as well. - jschrauwen 17:05:05 10/06/09 Add one more to the mix: - MixManMash 17:19:55 10/06/09 What's the point of that? The gain is from less airflow - Ashman2k2 17:35:57 10/06/09 This is how I read it too. - SimaYi 17:51:29 10/06/09 So I'm curious as to why ecu's come in single and dual pop - inf 00:11:11 10/07/09 The stock MAF has a limit to how much air it can register - Broke_as_**** 04:47:30 10/07/09 metering errors can be tuned out (n/m) - aliaZ 17:40:12 10/06/09 maybe I'm missing the point, but why would a - LJZTT 23:25:43 10/06/09 With the Selin Design silicone elbows, I would suspect that - MixManMash 23:47:44 10/06/09 apologies, poor word choice, I'm referring to the setup - LJZTT 00:00:05 10/07/09 No you haven't missed my point. The Selin Design is a very - Inzane 00:01:42 10/07/09 I would like to do a number of comparisons but ultimately - CaliguyPurdue (Selin Design) 11:22:35 10/07/09 Nice numbers Jim, WELL DONE!!! - jschrauwen 17:03:30 10/06/09 Was looking at adding some pep to the Z ans just got off - 5280Z_nightstalker 17:05:38 10/06/09 Nice work Jim, great product (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 17:23:51 10/06/09 Power/torque gain attributed to smoother flow ? - TTkeeper 17:29:10 10/06/09 yes - aliaZ 17:37:44 10/06/09 And more air... the subject went from single to dual intake (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 17:44:59 10/06/09 more air is the result of less restriction :) (n/m) - aliaZ 17:48:14 10/06/09 It is all about moving air with the least restriction.... - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 19:19:46 10/06/09 I suspect the gains are from higher compressor efficiency... - CaliguyPurdue (Selin Design) 11:37:42 10/07/09 Awesome! (n/m) - Jason(MD) 17:29:43 10/06/09 Always good to see a throughly well developed product - vorpalZ 17:35:09 10/06/09 and speaking of seeing... - vorpalZ 00:37:19 10/07/09 Re: and speaking of seeing... - ConVerTT 13:27:18 10/07/09 Good stuff...I like what I've seen so far (n/m) - RobZ32 17:09:11 10/07/09 Selin Design Manifolds please!!!! (n/m) - aliaZ 17:38:56 10/06/09 Selin Design Turbo inlet pipes please (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 17:45:56 10/06/09 Another one. - SimaYi 17:50:39 10/06/09 OEM worked for me? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 19:48:07 10/06/09 Try it with some 530BB's. (n/m) - MixManMash 23:48:51 10/06/09 Siggity served. Oil return lines would be an easy - BigTDogg (MA) 07:08:48 10/07/09 What's the big deal? Slot the holes on the stock flanges. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 16:54:41 10/07/09 Unfortunately they will never be produced... - CaliguyPurdue (Selin Design) 11:47:26 10/07/09 at least post a screen shot of the solid model - aliaZ 11:55:04 10/07/09 Understand your concern over recouping your cost..... - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 13:15:48 10/07/09 Very sad. - ArubaDave 17:58:47 10/07/09 how about considering some lower cost tooling? - aliaZ 14:22:24 10/07/09 Re: Selin Design Manifolds please!!!! - DbestiZ1 19:07:21 10/07/09 nice (n/m) - komplexZTT 17:54:03 10/06/09 Excellent! - Drk93TT 18:00:34 10/06/09 Nice work Jim. (n/m) - Tu 18:15:29 10/06/09 Impressive, nice work. (n/m) - LiL B 18:34:31 10/06/09 Great product ,well done. (n/m) - Z-speed 19:13:09 10/06/09 Wow !!!! That is pretty exciting !!!! Nice gain at the low - ConVerTT 19:44:14 10/06/09 Silly question: does translator need two OEM MAF sensors ? - TTkeeper 22:10:50 10/06/09 most definitely two (n/m) - ali300zx 22:13:51 10/06/09 Uh.. that's kinda the whole point. (n/m) - Inzane 22:20:51 10/06/09 So what would be the approx total cost of this upgrade? - Becker 10:14:46 10/07/09 Spend $100-120-ish on a used MAF, new pop chargers can be - Inzane 10:29:00 10/07/09 I dispute your conclusions - ConVerTT 13:34:20 10/07/09 So, If I understand correctly I can install this Selin...... - Ziceman(East TN) 22:24:48 10/06/09 correct (n/m) - Guapo 22:27:05 10/06/09 yep. you have the option of adding or averaging - aliaZ 22:32:06 10/06/09 is there any advantage to rechipping for dual pop? (n/m) - SuparexTT 19:00:11 10/07/09 yes, but it depends on your power level - aliaZ 22:37:11 10/07/09 At Stage III, which comes next? This or larger intercoolers? - Gordo 93TT Daytona 22:48:36 10/06/09 Neither. Get a boost controller. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 22:50:26 10/06/09 Touche (n/m) - Gordo 93TT Daytona 22:51:38 10/06/09 i'd do boost controller, IC then dual intake (n/m) - ztunerz 08:34:35 10/07/09 I have the 2.5" pre-cat back exhaust already so this........ - Ziceman(East TN) 22:51:54 10/06/09 Thanks, another thing to add to the list. (n/m) - dregos 22:58:19 10/06/09 great to see! (n/m) - JustinSCZ32 23:12:34 10/06/09 Good stuff. Digging on the same-day testing too! (n/m) - SeedyROM 00:58:20 10/07/09 I am all for getting rid of the abortions Nissan - plower 06:06:21 10/07/09 last time I checked, doesn't a JWT dual POP.... - The Hawk 11:15:31 10/07/09 yes - aliaZ 14:03:38 10/07/09 well done Jimmy Boy! (n/m) - Spee 16:32:12 10/07/09 Just wanted to say - Cuis-Z 11:18:21 10/19/09
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